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		<title>By: Samurai Appliance Repair Man</title>
		<link>http://fixitnow.com/wp/2006/07/29/miele-appliance-technical-training/comment-page-1/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Samurai Appliance Repair Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your present washer is a top loader, oui?  ANY front loader will do a much better job washing and wringing out the clothes than a conventional top loader with a transmission (which is all the cheap ones).  I say &quot;conventional top loader&quot; because there are top loaders that are 1) horizontal axis washers like the front loaders you&#039;re familiar with and 2) the top loaders what do not use a transmission and have washing and water use characteristics comparable to a horizontal axis washer.  

As for the Miele, it will be among the very best performers and most reliable in the front loading class.  It will also have the among the highest price tags.  But, if you want the very best, there it is.  

Having said that, you should call Miele (or any other appliance manufacturer whose washer you&#039;re considering buying) and see if they have authorized, trained technicians who service your area.  Get the names of the service companies and call them to make sure they actually service your area-- manufacturers are famous for giving out the name of an authorized servicer to someone who lives way outside of the servicer&#039;s area.  

If you&#039;re a do-it-yourselfer and live in an area where getting competent technical help on anything is a rare event, then get the Staber washer.  It&#039;s a top-loading, horizontal axis washer, very rugged, is designed to be serviced by you the homeowner and has no quiescent power draw.  For these reasons, the Staber is a big hit with alternative energy folks who either live entirely off the grid or generate a lot of their own power via wind, solar, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your present washer is a top loader, oui?  ANY front loader will do a much better job washing and wringing out the clothes than a conventional top loader with a transmission (which is all the cheap ones).  I say &#8220;conventional top loader&#8221; because there are top loaders that are 1) horizontal axis washers like the front loaders you&#8217;re familiar with and 2) the top loaders what do not use a transmission and have washing and water use characteristics comparable to a horizontal axis washer.  </p>
<p>As for the Miele, it will be among the very best performers and most reliable in the front loading class.  It will also have the among the highest price tags.  But, if you want the very best, there it is.  </p>
<p>Having said that, you should call Miele (or any other appliance manufacturer whose washer you&#8217;re considering buying) and see if they have authorized, trained technicians who service your area.  Get the names of the service companies and call them to make sure they actually service your area&#8211; manufacturers are famous for giving out the name of an authorized servicer to someone who lives way outside of the servicer&#8217;s area.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a do-it-yourselfer and live in an area where getting competent technical help on anything is a rare event, then get the Staber washer.  It&#8217;s a top-loading, horizontal axis washer, very rugged, is designed to be serviced by you the homeowner and has no quiescent power draw.  For these reasons, the Staber is a big hit with alternative energy folks who either live entirely off the grid or generate a lot of their own power via wind, solar, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: JSo</title>
		<link>http://fixitnow.com/wp/2006/07/29/miele-appliance-technical-training/comment-page-1/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>JSo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the excellent comments about the Miele&#039;s longevity.  Any comments about how it washes?   Does it wash the same as, say, the KitchenAid?  Being working stiffs like yourself, that is what we own, but my wife is unhappy with it because of how it washes -- or more precisely, (doesn&#039;t) dry stuff.   Does the Miele also give a better wash/dry or are its advantages solely in life cycle cost?   Thanks for any info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the excellent comments about the Miele&#8217;s longevity.  Any comments about how it washes?   Does it wash the same as, say, the KitchenAid?  Being working stiffs like yourself, that is what we own, but my wife is unhappy with it because of how it washes &#8212; or more precisely, (doesn&#8217;t) dry stuff.   Does the Miele also give a better wash/dry or are its advantages solely in life cycle cost?   Thanks for any info.</p>
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		<title>By: Samurai Appliance Repair Man</title>
		<link>http://fixitnow.com/wp/2006/07/29/miele-appliance-technical-training/comment-page-1/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>Samurai Appliance Repair Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ed.  The post you refer to is almost three years old.  That&#039;s a long time in the fast-changing and cut-throat world of appliance manufacturing!  Here now, for your edification and illumination, are my latest observations about new dishwashers in general, and the three brands you mentioned in particular:

Bosch is a middle-level brand which is *perceived*  as a higher-end brand.  Nothing wrong with that, just don&#039;t go buying a Bosch thinking you&#039;re getting a machine of comparable quality to the Miele at half the price.  Ain&#039;t happenin&#039;.

Asko dishwashers have been famous in the past for spontaneous combustion of the electrical wiring in the control panel.  Have not seen enough new ones to know whether or not they&#039;ve resolved this problem.  

From what I&#039;ve seen, the Miele appears to be a better-built machine than either the Bosch or the Asko.  And, for what it&#039;s worth, I just don&#039;t get many service calls on Miele dishwashers and the ones I do get are almost all problems induced by the customer.  Miele also beats Bosch and Asko hands-down in standing behind their products.  

Now, is a dishwasher worth $2,000?  Depends on how much a dollar is worth to you.  For working stiffs, like myself, I would buy a Kitchenaid; and that&#039;s the dishwasher we own.  If I had a $4 million house on Lake Sunapee and paid more in property taxes in a year than most people earn in four years and I just wanted the best machine money could buy, I&#039;d get a Miele, no question.  

I would still not even consider buying a dishwasher, or any other appliance, from GE.  Nor would I consider a Frigidaire.  Now, I&#039;m not saying the Kitchenaid is perfect-- you&#039;ll still have problems with it, one of which is a burned out motor/pump assembly, which is covered by a five year warranty.  But, you&#039;re getting a decent dishwasher for less than $1,000.  If you feel like spending more for a dishwasher, then get the Miele.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ed.  The post you refer to is almost three years old.  That&#8217;s a long time in the fast-changing and cut-throat world of appliance manufacturing!  Here now, for your edification and illumination, are my latest observations about new dishwashers in general, and the three brands you mentioned in particular:</p>
<p>Bosch is a middle-level brand which is *perceived*  as a higher-end brand.  Nothing wrong with that, just don&#8217;t go buying a Bosch thinking you&#8217;re getting a machine of comparable quality to the Miele at half the price.  Ain&#8217;t happenin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Asko dishwashers have been famous in the past for spontaneous combustion of the electrical wiring in the control panel.  Have not seen enough new ones to know whether or not they&#8217;ve resolved this problem.  </p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen, the Miele appears to be a better-built machine than either the Bosch or the Asko.  And, for what it&#8217;s worth, I just don&#8217;t get many service calls on Miele dishwashers and the ones I do get are almost all problems induced by the customer.  Miele also beats Bosch and Asko hands-down in standing behind their products.  </p>
<p>Now, is a dishwasher worth $2,000?  Depends on how much a dollar is worth to you.  For working stiffs, like myself, I would buy a Kitchenaid; and that&#8217;s the dishwasher we own.  If I had a $4 million house on Lake Sunapee and paid more in property taxes in a year than most people earn in four years and I just wanted the best machine money could buy, I&#8217;d get a Miele, no question.  </p>
<p>I would still not even consider buying a dishwasher, or any other appliance, from GE.  Nor would I consider a Frigidaire.  Now, I&#8217;m not saying the Kitchenaid is perfect&#8211; you&#8217;ll still have problems with it, one of which is a burned out motor/pump assembly, which is covered by a five year warranty.  But, you&#8217;re getting a decent dishwasher for less than $1,000.  If you feel like spending more for a dishwasher, then get the Miele.</p>
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		<title>By: EdK</title>
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		<dc:creator>EdK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m about to buy a new dishwasher, and I had just read your advice at http://fixitnow.com/wp/2003/09/24/mailbag-appliance-brand-recommendations/ ...
&quot;Also avoid the furrin’ brands: Asko, Miele, and Bosch–they break down just as often, if not more, and repairs are at least twice as expensive.&quot;

Have you changed your mind on the Mieles?  What would you recommend these days?  I&#039;d rather not buy a disposable unit.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about to buy a new dishwasher, and I had just read your advice at <a href="http://fixitnow.com/wp/2003/09/24/mailbag-appliance-brand-recommendations/" rel="nofollow">http://fixitnow.com/wp/2003/09/24/mailbag-appliance-brand-recommendations/</a> &#8230;<br />
&#8220;Also avoid the furrin’ brands: Asko, Miele, and Bosch–they break down just as often, if not more, and repairs are at least twice as expensive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you changed your mind on the Mieles?  What would you recommend these days?  I&#8217;d rather not buy a disposable unit.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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