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Gas Oven Ignition Systems


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Oh boy, it's frozen pizza night...except the oven won't fire up. If your gas oven isn't firing up, the first step in fixing it is figuring out what type of ignition system you have. This Appliance Tip of the Day will 'splain all that to ya.


The two types of ignition systems used in gas ranges today are:

  1. hot surface ignition and
  2. pilot flame ignition.

Click the links for pictures of each type. The ignition used on your range will be one of these two types. What's the difference? Hang with me a moment and I'll 'splain it to you.

Hot Surface Ignition

Hot surface ignition systems use what's called an ignitor. Common flat ignitors look like this. The heart of an ignitor is the carborundum material at the end. That's the gray part, usually in a protective cage, attached to the ceramic base. The carborundum is a very fragile material that gets very hot and glows bright orange when you run a electrical current through it. The carborundum can also be round but most are flat.

The ignitor is wired in series with a special part of the gas valve called the bi-metal. As the ignitor heats up, it's resistance drops allowing more current to flow through it and on to the bi-metal in the gas valve. As current flows through the bi-metal, it heats up, too, and it's designed to bend. When the bi-metal bends, it opens the port allowing gas to flow through. This gas flows to the oven burner tube and out some special holes drilled in tube right next to the ignitor. Since the ignitor is really hot, the gas bursts into flames, igniting all the gas in the burner and you happily go about your bidness of baking a frozen pizza.

As these ignitors are used, they develop little itty bitty cracks in 'em that increase the resistance of the carborundum. Eventually, the carborundum won't pass enough current to open the bi-metal in the gas valve so no gas ever squirts out. So, the only way to really know whether the ignitor is bad or not is to measure the current flow through the ignitor when you turn the oven on. Lots of gory details about that on this page.

Pilot Flame Ignition

The other type of ignition system used is the pilot ignition. Within the the world of pilot ignition ovens, two types of pilot flame systems are used:

  1. the pilot flame is either always on (called a "standing pilot") or
  2. a spark lights up the pilot flame when you turn on the oven (called a "spark-assisted pilot").

If your oven is a pilot ignition system, how do you tell which type it is? Good question, grasshopper, now you're thinking! First, look at the pilot assembly in your oven. They come in various shapes, some common ones are shown here. If you see a pilot flame with the oven turned off, then you know you have a standing pilot system. If the pilot flame only comes on when you turn on the oven, then you know you have a spark-assisted pilot ignition system.

In both types of pilot systems, the purpose of the pilot flame is the same: to heat the sensing bulb, which is attached to the gas valve, and to ignite the gas in the burner tube. The sensing bulb lives in the pilot flame. The flame needs to heat the bulb up enough to tell it to open the gas valve. Several things can go wrong here that keep this from happening:

  1. The pilot flame may not be hot enough, usually because the flame is yellow instead of pure blue or is too small. The cause for this is usually a dirty pilot assembly. The pilot assembly would either need to be cleaned or replaced.
  2. The sensing bulb may not be positioned properly in the flame. You can't heat the bulb properly if it's not in the pilot flame! The sensing bulb needs to live in the upper third of a pure blue pilot flame--that's the hottest part of the flame.
  3. The sensing bulb itself may be burned out. It happens. It's a integral part of the gas valve so, no, you can't just change the sensing bulb separate from the gas valve. Life's never that easy, is it? How do you tell the sensing bulb is bad? Well, figger it out by process of elimination: if the pilot flame is good and doing what it's supposed to do, then the sensing bulb is bad.

"Hey, what do you mean, 'if the pilot flame is doing what it's supposed to?' I thought the pilot flame was just supposed to be a purdy blue flame." Well, that is an important part of what it's supposed to do, but that's not quite all of it. The pilot flame moves around and does different things according to what's going on with the oven. With the oven off or with the thermostat temperature satisfied, the flame just stands there looking purdy (in a standing pilot system).

But when you turn on the oven or the thermostat calls for heat, the pilot flame gets bigger and jumps down so it can heat up the thermocouple bulb. This extra gas to increase the pilot flame size comes from the thermostat. This is important to know because it leads to a couple of fine diagnostic points:

One final point on the spark-assisted pilot ignition systems. The spark comes from the spark module--the same module that sends spark to your surface burners to light them up. If you're not getting a spark when you turn the oven on, then there are several possibilities:

If you're still confoosed and need more help, post your question in the Samurai Appliance Repair Forum. And, Hoss, be sure to include your model number.

Awwite, go bake you some pizza!


grasshoppers sitting with the master visualizing the different types of gas oven ignition systems

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